One theory that has become popular is that rh negative blood might come from the Neanderthals.
But were the Neanderthals in fact rh negative and has that theory ever been met with direct evidence?
I have personally contacted Svante Pääbo from the Max Planck Institute and asked him if they knew what the rh factor of the Neanderthal specimens examined was.
Here is the email I have received:
The Denisova and Altai Neandertal are homozygous for the ancestral “A” variant at position 25629943 on chromosome 1 that determines rhesus type in modern humans. This variant means that both are likely rhesus positive.
My follow up question was:
Could it be possible that that the Denisova and Altai Neanderthals
were homozygenous for the D negative gene rather than D positive?
The reply:
No. As far as I can tell from the informative position that determines
rhesus type in humans, both are homozygous rhesus positive.
Note: Homozygous rhesus positive means that neither of the two specimens examined carried the rh negative gene recessively either making them both +/+.
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Even though they found two Neanderthal skeletons with Rh+ blood I am certain the Rh- blood comes from interaction with Neanderthals somehow, or some other related species. Neanderthals may also have had both Rh+ and Rh- blood.
Both red hair, pale skin, some autoimmune diseases and many other features common in Rh- people have been proven comes from Neanderthals. Another hypothesis is that Rh- blood may have come from the hybridization when humans and Neanderthals interbred.
I am RH neg, of Mediteranean and Iberian ancestry, am olive skinned and dark as well as hairy (hee) with no auto immune disease, actually very healthy. Thank you Neanderthal cave dwellers of Iberia.
Sorry for replying this late, but since this topic is back of interest to me I am curious as to what exactly you believe may have happened in terms of rh negative blood coming to be. When you say through hybridization, you obviously believe it was at least a certain population of the Neanderthals responsible for it, right?
In case you have not yet seen it, here is an updated version of this post:
https://www.rhesusnegative.net/staynegative/neanderthalhands
Thank you for your comment!
Thank you, Hanna. It has almost been 10 years since your comment, but I hope you are still around to realize how right you were and are!
I am Rh- and come from a family which is very musically talented…..for several generations. Is that typical of Basques? Also we are 50% left handed and fifty percent right handed. Does that correlate with being of Basque descent or having Rh- blood?
I am Rh 0 Negative and with recent DNA testing on 23andme I have 3.3 % Neanderthal DNA rated on a scale of 1.0 %-4.0 % in the 98% percentile Neanderthal DNA for Modern Day Humans…with that said…read all the newest 2016 articles on Neanderthal and Modern Day Humans…the higher your Neanderthal percentage…you will have a higher resistance to diseases and on the downside of that higher Neanderthal percentage, you will experience more allergies…the lower the Neanderthal percentage you are less likely to experience as many allergies for instance as someone like me, that has a higher Neanderthal percentage on the scale of 1.0% -4.0%…
For everyone who hasn’t had their DNA tested at 23andme to find out what their Neanderthal percentage is…it will always be just guess work for you trying to figure out if you are allergic to this or that…and all the other results have proven to be most helpful in helping to more informed in your personal health…I have shared all my results with my personal care physician and it has been the best thing since she was not familiar with all this new DNA testing…more doctors are being informed every day…and yes, we all are very unique in our blood types and our Neanderthal percentages…which many doctors are finally seeing the big picture that the medicines they have prescribed for certain aliments DOES NOT WORK for everyone even though the symptoms may have been the same…for the rest of 2016 and in 2017…you are going to see many leaps and bounds in DNA testing…many medical doctors are ordering DNA testing now to determine which heart medications to give their patients…many people have been taking the wrong heart med’s for years…this is a big discovery this year…and more to come in the near future…
Hi Debbie
I find it interesting that I am also RH- And I also have a 3.00 percent of neanderthal DNA. My
Blood Line is 98% west European. And My ancestry research on both my mothers and fathers lines
has taken me to Wales, Britain, and Sweden in most cases. I have wondered if there might be a Neanderthal RH- connection. My mother was O- I was A- My father was A+.
Thankyou for sharing.
Wow – what you just posted about yourself falls in line with everything I currently know about myself. Exact same blood types for me, mother, father; exact same Neanderthal DNA, family bloodlines, etc. Incredible
>many medical doctors are ordering DNA testing now to determine which heart medications to give their patients
YIKES
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This post is pretty old at this point, but I would also just like to say that my blood type is A-, and according to 23andMe I am 4% Neanderthal. There has to be something to this. I also have an extra vertebrae which is common in rh negative people. Anyone else?
Neanderthals being Rh negative & mating w/ Cro-Magnons or what is now called Early Modern Humans (EMA) / Anatomically Modern Humans (https://www.thoughtco.com/we-dont-call-them-cro-magnon-170738) certainly seems to be the best explanation for the starting point & dissemination of the recessive Rh(D) negative gene and the Rh(D)- female antibody reaction to a second conception problem w/ carrying Rh(D)+ unborn. the Neanderthals disappeared imo through interbreeding the EMAs and most likely because the EMAs were probably better at so called higher brain functions like mathematics and other frontal brain lobe functions. i suspect they were more war-like/dominant & conquering oriented as well. the results speak volumes. toward the end of the mixing, it seems the most highly developed stone tool culture this world has ever seen developed: the Solutrean culture. i do believe this culture and their technology spread to the US between 20,000 & 17,000 yrs ago. the ice age that existed at that time has retreated. the ocean level is perhaps 120 meters higher now world-wide and many of the artifacts created by these people who lived and hunted along the northwest coast of Spain & Western France are now buried and hidden under all this extra water, sedimentation & erosion.
some other things that have crossed my mind recently: yes, inbreeding…all life begins w/ a split / a subdividing of itself…life forms like plants developed ways to self-pollinate/self-fertilize themselves…animal species went farther still w/ males & females providing roughly half of the combined genetic information/organic machinery to the newly conceived individual(s). much inbreeding occurred early on w/ humans and it’s entire Hominin family. that’s the way it must work / did happen in the beginning. humans also have developed many so called purebred animals via inbreeding (and changed the course of traits of many animals over time through selective breeding). inbreeding can reproduce good traits, enhance them, not change things much at all and/or do the same for less desirable traits. for much of recorded (recent) modern human history, incest (among immediate family or first cousins) has often been not well accepted, discouraged or made illegal…accept for at least some of the ruling classes (they often concurrently exhibit other psychopathic traits besides this hypocrisy)…but my point is: i also think this has been done to essentially eliminate tribes, clans, close families, those still not well integrating into a larger whole and any speciation that was happening/that did exist as was/is the case w/ Rh(D) negatives (or it could be said that their apparent Neaderthal DNA was just too stubbornly hanging around for those who want to force all down the same path all-ways forever). there are exceptions now, where some small indigenous tribes are allowed to exist in situ as protected examples of non-modern human history/ways-of-life. it isn’t so much divide and conquer i think, as it may be to uniformly mix and integrate until all differences fade-away/are removed and all become one w/out any definition anywhere. no choice situations are like being close to death, there’s little to no freedom and in a real sense one is being forced into a resultant state…naturally or otherwise. w/ better knowledge of how things actually work, one can use this knowledge to affect one’s self and some other thing going forward. to individual freedom /w individual responsibility…to truth, integrity, goodness, satisfaction in living & beauty as well.
lies seem to be everywhere now/still // be wary. truth is well hidden intentionally. be yourself & take care of yourself and those things & people you care about most. good things don’t usually happen w/out well focused effort, persistence, patience and perseverance. make the most of the life you’ve got…it’s a one way street…& each is unique for all-time. best wishes Rh(D) negs…we do seem to be an extended genetic family. yeah, and maybe an endangered species too. most will never admit this. it’s just the way things are now. – just remembered one more things: obviously Rh nulls are Rh(D) negs as well…which means, that even though only 40 or so Rh nulls are known globally now, there may be some more among the our currently extant Rh(D) group/family right now. –
among other things, i should have abbreviated Early Modern Humans as EMH not EMA.
Ken a good thinker you are!
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This may be contrary to Academia; however I am prone to just accept what The Scriptures teach.
Genesis 6:9 (KJV)
These are the generations (to-led-aw’) of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations (taw-meem’ dore) , and Noah walked with God.
Jeremiah 31:27 (KJV)
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man (zeh’-rah aw-dawm’), and with the seed of beast (zeh’-rah be-hay-maw’).
Is it not unique, that Science is proving The Scriptures to be correct, contrary to contemporary dogma? This is also shunned /avoided in seminary! Hmm!
Back woods buba, can’t win for all the wrong numbers: (sarc)
Rh neg., low blood pressure, low body temp, abortion survivor & very little grey considering the post retirement age!
Allen,
I don’t often have time to read every blog. Prior to finding this site, people discussed or I read online about some RH relationship to Levitite priests, The nephilim. The Nephilim kept me up some nights believing God condemned us to Hell. There is so much speculation about our RH neg. Group…What are you referring to? Many RH negative web discuss the fallen angels…Then I read about the tribes of j uda…I thought the deluge was to exterminate… “Us” ! I’m not by any means ” good” yet love god, research the bible have had many profound religious based miracles… Too many pictures and videos comments from priests…What truth in scripture do you see? I’m a sinner, because of unusual events, video, pictures, my best friend Father francis..says God has important work for you…don’t be afraid of these things do gods will! I am afraid of the strange events…I know scripture, what are you suggesting or think? Just curious..TY
hmm, it seems some characters that i used when i input a name for myself here are not accepted…like this one i used w/in the quotes of my post above: “” since i see Anonymous listed in this place while it’s awaiting moderation.
Strange things have been happening. Many comments went straight to the spam folder without anything being wrong with them. I changed the name from “Anonymous” to Ken. It shown as “Anonymous” on the user’s end, but on my end in the dashboard, the space was blank.
early modern ancestors = EMA
Yes, I have A negative and found out I have 95% more Neanderthal than most of 23and More customers.
I am left handed, blue eyed, extreme empathy, lots of paranormal experiences, light haired and light skinned and carry the red hair gene. My ancestors go back to the feudal times in England and also the Dunbars of Ireland (Earl of Dunbar). Relatives came to Charleston SC in the 1600s. (on fathers side)
And the Bourbon Kings of France. (near the Basque region)
Have lots of autoimmune conditions, allergies, extreme reactions to certain meds, hyper sensitive to chemicals.
High neanderthal as well…what 23 and me said we’re neanderthal traits were spot on for me, seeming to over ride the ‘other’ traits my dna of origin should have generated….lol. I also have extra long vertabre in the neck area, rudementry 6th toe, extremely strong, great stamina, very quick reflexes, extreme night vision, heightened body awareness, both sensation and positional.
Strange reactions to drugs of any kind, stimulants have almost no effect, depressants have extreme effect. Process drugs three times as fast as most people.(ask my anethsitist 3 c-sections later//, or my dentist)
No allergies or immune issues, however, have to be very careful with “chemicals” in environment and especially in foods…tend to become inflamed…
Oh. Yes…red hair, ivory skin, hazel eyes, Irish/Welsh/German/etc.
Ambidextrous- can use both hands equally…and do on a daily bases. Play music and sing…exceptional hearing….including ‘hearing’ things others can’t.
Many paranormal experiences, yesterday a customer was walking up to my window and I got a mental flash of him wearing hand wraps like a boxer…(this is a dirt company)…I said…so you’re a boxer…he answered…yes, both in Mexico and here in the United States.
For me, this happens daily…and I stay steady because the hand of God keeps me sane…and yes, we were all bought with a price, neanderthal/nephalim/Hebrew or not…the Blood paid it all. So be at peace…and be all that you CAN be. Blessings.
Forgot to mention extra teeth and…high pain threshold…very high.
Fast healing…broke my hand playing soccer in college(didn’t know was broke til that night) thought was a sprain so I pulled the finger straight and kept playing, just not as goaly, lol…that evening, when it finally swelled, I went to e.r. and had it cast(bone in back of hand snapped clean in 2)
Cast was removed 2 weeks later when x-rays showed was healed(wrote with left hand in my classes until cast was off)
At 46, my collar bone was snapped in 2 from a blow…I have all the x-rays showing it healed in 19 days.
Aside from pain and healing, I can also feel electro magnetic feilds.
Because they interfer with me, I wear all natural fiber like cotton and linen and wool. Before I did that, I blew out the CB radio at work by all the static I was carrying.
So is it the Neanderthal or the rh- neg?
I have finally found other people that can relate and have experienced the same things as I do. I have the Neanderthal variants as well, red hair, pale skin and blue eyes run in my family but I don’t have any of those but my children do. I have brown eyes and my childrens father does too but my girls all have blonde hair, one has strawberry blonde and they all have blue eyes.I have never gone into labor naturally and I never felt contractions prior to being induced, all my children were 3 weeks past their due date and I never dialated or had my water break without the medication and the nurse breaking my water. I have a high pain tolerence and some medications have the reverse effect with me. My allegries are so unpredictable and flare up at any given moment, I also have experienced strange thngs with computers and transmitters, they always short out when I am around. There are so many other things that I could go on and on about but as usual I am up late and should try and sleep. My blood test said I am O- but I am being tested at a different lab to see if I am Rhnull. Wish me luck and I hope I don’t end up as a lab rat or someone’s personal blood bank. lol Sorry, I didn’t use Grammerly on this, so please forgive any mistakes.