The “Dicsussion” section of one study showing no Neanderthal y-DNA present in today’s population also theorized that the reason for it could have been fertility issues between Neanderthal males and human females. They then continued that had there been children between Neanderthal men and human women, offspring would have likely been sterile. I have looked for evidence just in case I have overlooked something, but there isn’t any I am aware of. However, this theoretical explanation has been turned into a headline by several scientific publications and is now stuck as a fact in the back of the minds of many who have read it.
It is true that so far no current y-DNA haplogroup in humans can successfully be traced back to Neanderthal males. But then there was also a “Discussion” claiming that there was no female mtDNA from Neanderthals present in current humans suggesting fertility issues between human males and Neanderthal women.
So how could it be that Europeans have 2-4 percent Neanderthal DNA when mixing wasn’t possible?
First off, as I have previously written on this blog (use the search bar), there are several mtDNA haplogroups which are likely to have Neanderthal origin, but have been mutated along the way. Looking at the timelines of origin of all major haplogroups makes this very plausible. So let me start with what makes no sense to assume:
It is true that likely there was none of next to no offspring produced between Neanderthal men and human women. Assuming fertility issues makes no sense as it lacks any basis.
There is also no basis to assume that Neanderthal women couldn’t have given birth to children from human males. We still need more studies on ABO and rhesus factor of Neanderthals and early humans mixing with Neanderthals in order to assume a possible rh incompatibility connection. But until we get this, let’s compile what we know.
Around the time that early humans arrived, around 35,000 Neanderthals existed. That means around 1,000 populations of around 35 Neanderthals each. The Neanderthals preferred small groups. It was their nature and their comfort zone. You may have read the claim that autism comes from Neanderthals and likely a desire to live your life in a village of 35 people would be interpreted as a sign of autism in today’s world. It is based on today’s standards and today’s interpretations not taking into consideration that while this may not work well in terms of picking one of the Neanderthals out and putting him into today’s general population and expecting him to fit in and be happy, it worked for them within their own society. The Basques for example had lived peacefully for thousands of years enjoying their lives and learning all types of crafts like building the types of ships which eventually were used in the biggest fleet in history at the time, the Armada. The true nature of the Neanderthals is of interest to me as is the true nature of rhesus negative people. Not how rhesus negatives fit into today’s world, not what rhesus negatives have become, but our true original nature when in a group of other rhesus negatives. Regardless of whether or not the group settings could be considered “well-functioning autistic people” under today’s perceptions.
Rather than assuming fertility issues, it makes more sense to look at human behavior today (as a whole) and then look at what human behavior was likely like back then. Assume for a minute large groups of early human men roaming through new territory in Europe. They came across small Neanderthal tribes. They had women and food. What do you think wound up happening? Do you think that the Neanderthal men invited them in for a meal and that they behaved properly? What likely happened was that the Neanderthal men tried to protect their women, children and possessions and couldn’t do so as they were outnumbered. They wound up likely killed and their women and children enslaved. Females likely kept alive. Throughout history, male children of those who lost the battle usually wound up dying young. The women were mated with and the young girls when coming of age, likely wound up ending up the same. In other words: Little by little, the male lineage of Neanderthals was likely killed off, but the women were there to continue their line.
Especially until recently, it was very popular to assume that the extinction of the Neanderthals was a part of evolution as they must have been genetically inferior to modern humans. The truth is that all evidence leads us towards them having been more advanced than modern humans of the time, were simply outnumbered and did even have larger mental capacities than humans as a whole today. It took a long time for the scientific editors to allow material indication anything other than labeling them as mindless beasts. To this day, this attitude is as much a part of human nature as a whole as it was the nature of Neanderthals to prefer small and peaceful groups.
What is your nature? What is the original nature of ancient rhesus negative populations? Who do you choose to compare yourself to?
Whenever a new interesting study is being published, interpretations based on what readers of scientific magazines would like to read are bound to follow. The claim that Neanderthals were cannibals is popular, the retraction thereof didn’t make headlines.
We are not talking about a war between early humans and Neanderthal men. Neanderthals as a whole didn’t have an army. Their extinction may have taken 1,000s of years with similar scenarios taking place over and over again until their male lineage was eradicated.
So what about the original populations with high rhesus negative percentages?
The claim that rhesus negative blood originates anywhere near the British Isles makes no sense. Island speciation could have been responsible for certain blood factors, but in the case of the British Isles, I do not see any reason to even consider it. Usually the claim of origin is connected to the claim of Atlantis. Even the Nazis made the claim once that the Aryans originally came from the “sunken continent” which has already been proven to never have existed.
Until around 6,000 years ago, the British Isles were not isles, but connected to the mainland via Doggerland. There was very little migration from the British Isles to mainland Europe, but plenty to the isles. The Yamnaya stand out, but the Mathieson claim that they were 40% rhesus negative may or may not be so. He hasn’t shown any proof, just a “discussion”. Rhesus negative presence among them makes sense spreading to the east where the Scythians then carried it to Lower Silesia and also places such as Kerala, India. We also need to take into consideration, that the Proto-Basques show origin around the Fertile Crescent, the Caucasus as well as possibly the eastern Mediterranean regions and didn’t have Yamnaya ancestry. Looking at their rhesus negative percentages today, it is likely that thousands of years ago, their percentages were significantly higher. So, even though the majority of Basques today is rhesus positive, the d gene frequency is above 50% and their culture has been likely originated in what a predominantly rhesus negative tribe put together. They were also later invaded by the Proto-Celts of Yamnaya origin and most of their male lineage killed off. Likely, the offspring was raised by the Basques mothers primarily, which is why the Basque language wasn’t replaced. But the killing off of the men was likely why there was a break in their history being taught and Basques today have no idea where they originally came from.
This lineage of y-DNA haplogroup R1b is also present in today’s Brazilian men at a frequency of almost half. It explains the high rhesus negative frequencies in Brazil. It also highlights the reality of gender-specific extinctions. While around 10 percent or less of the Brazilian y-DNA is African or Native, among 90 percent of the female mtDNA is. Usually we hear the claim that diseases were responsible for the extinction of previous populations or rather the reduction. This “explanation” is popular in terms of not dividing society any further. It isn’t satisfactory however for the readers who understand that if it was diseases exclusively responsible for the reduction of a population, it would affect both males and females the same unless proven to affect either of the genders more. While aware of plenty of historical situations where male lineage was wiped out and female remained present, I am also not aware of a historical situation where the female population was wiped out and replaced, but the male population remained as is.
Rh negative health disadvantages, mental or physical, may not have existed in populations predominantly rhesus negative, but rather be a result of physical and personality incompatibility with general populations today as well as sensitivity, a great set of warning signs, resulting in aiding sickness when those warning signs are repeatedly ignored. It isn’t as much of interest to me what the symptoms of a non-beneficial life may have become, but rather what the solution for a positive life have been in the past. Rather than fabricating and living in dreamworlds of “ancient pasts”, it is essential to learn more about the lives of tribes high in rhesus negative blood in order to find what our true nature craves. It beats the escapism into a never-ending comfort zone hindering us from learning what really was. Fearmongering also leads us away from finding out more about ourselves, such as the many claims that “they are after us” and that there is nothing to do about it. It is important to find unity among rhesus negatives in order for us to support one another in our true findings. Much of what has been labeled negative in society, is actually a positive in the right settings. Listening to your own sensitivities can improve your life much more than medicating it. It is a positive to react badly to something that isn’t good for you. Allergic reactions should be seen as warning signs that they are to guide you into what to avoid. Life expectancies based on blood types vary significantly from region to region. Living conditions in some areas may be more beneficial for people of certain blood types and different blood types in other areas. Think about 10 things that bother you the most in your life. Then write up 3 ideas for each of them on how to avoid being affected by them. This can be a start. You can write them down for you to look at again and again when consumed with life as it is rather than what you think it could be like. And if this leads you to success, don’t hesitate to share it with other rhesus negatives.
This post includes summaries of previous findings referenced on this blog. For any further details, use the search bar and type in the appropriate keywords to read up on the studies. If anything is unclear, you have additional information or believe that any of the above requires an update, leave a comment below.
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That was a lovely article. thank you. I am A neg